Comment Bump Up: Too Cynical? … Or Too Optimistic?

Time for a comment bump up from Matt Taibbi’s post, “Why Do We Care Whose Side the Pope Is On?”

Posted by eat2evolve on September 24, 2015 at 11:44 pm edit

Laura, can you summarize here? So much cynicism makes my brain shut down! Thank you, d 🙂

Posted by laurabruno on September 24, 2015 at 11:48 pm edit

Sorry, Diana, no time to summarize. If you don’t want to read it, that’s fine. Not everything I post is for everyone. 🙂

Posted by diana on September 25, 2015 at 3:17 am edit

I read it 🙂 I just don’t get the cynicism. I was interested because, of course, I noticed that the Pope is in town. So what’s up with all the negativity? It’s weird to me that there even IS a pope, in the first place. But I have to say, I do like this one better than the last one. Just my opinion. xo

Posted by laurabruno on September 25, 2015 at 3:57 am edit

Well, I prefer Count Dracula to the previous one, so yeah, Francis is much more likable than he was! The article is based on quite solid research and doesn’t even go that far in terms of cynicism, given the Jesuit Oath.

For starters, despite the outward show and words of caring, Francis just canonized a genocidal slave owner who brutalized the Native population. Having lived in California and seen and researched the missions there, wow, I really don’t know where to begin on that one, particularly in terms of symbolic actions. The Native Americans had quite a lot to say about it, though, and begged him not to canonize Junipero Serra, but he did anyway. The canonization speaks greater volumes than a token acknowledgment of Native American pain.

Then there’s the showing of more sympathy to pedophile priests than to their many, many, many spiritually, physically and emotionally devastated victims, some of whom I’ve spoken with in sessions. He mentioned the victims almost like an afterthought, with the primary concern being compassion for the pedophiles.

I could go on, but I prefer not to. Yes, it’s weird that there is still a patriarchal “gateway to God.” If Francis were truly following in St. Francis’ footsteps he would be giving away at least some of the vast wealth of the Vatican, which along with the Queen of England, owns most of the world. How many immigrant families is the Vatican housing for all its talk of compassion and in all its vast mansions and rooms? Two. St. Francis gave away all of his father’s money. If Francis really wanted to emulate him, he could start by giving away at least some of the Vatican’s gold. Jesus threw the money changers out of the Temple. This pope’s not advocating for that. He’s positioning the Vatican to be back in charge of the money, along with everything else.

I only posted the article because people have been asking me my opinion, and I didn’t feel like devoting my own article to it. Not a fan, but then, I’m neither a fan of the Vatican nor the entire Judeo-Christian-Muslim Sky God “my God is better than your God, shame, indoctrinate and/or kill to convert” religious miasma.

All these people getting so much media play, from Trump to the pope … what do they have in common? Big daddy government and/or big daddy religion will swoop in with more regulations, more rules, and more control to “fix” what corporations (and the Vatican really IS the biggest one) have caused. Problem. Reaction. Solution. Oh, and if he’s so concerned about overpopulation, then why, in the 21st century is there still a prohibition on birth control? So, instead of taking an obvious, direct measure to allow voluntary self-directed action by individuals to stop contributing to the so called carbon burden, he’s championing Agenda 2030, which makes Agenda 21 look like a walk in the (still accessible to humans) park.

Nice smile, though. I agree with his advocacy of the Golden Rule. I just wish he and his institution would make the first move beyond largely symbolic gestures and platitudes.

Plant a garden. Love your neighbor. Find your OWN connection to the Divine. Some people view those religions, their doctrines and “unerring, heavily edited texts” as the problem, not the solutions, and certainly not the only gateway to the Divine.

I seem like a cynic, but maybe I’m too optimistic for the human race. I like to believe that given real information, an end to manipulation, an end to childhood sexual abuse (which fractures souls and is pretty much institutionalized by the Catholic Church at this point) … and given even the tiniest opening of the Vatican’s DEEP coffers, humanity could right itself, find its own Divinity and move on to an age in which the Golden Rule just comes naturally, rather than being mandated from above by self-proclaimed elites. Haven’t we been there, done that? Isn’t that how we got into this mess or at least exacerbated it?

But maybe I’m too optimistic. Maybe this world really does need a totalitarian papa to corral the humans into little cages for their own good. A girl can dream, though.

UPDATE:
eat2evolve posted the following reply on the same day on the original post. I thought it had shown up here in the string of comments, but just realized per her comment today that it had not. My apologies, and I hope this explains where she was coming from. Had I realized her reply had not posted on this post’s comment string, I would have added it in. It speaks for itself, and so I did not realize the comments below would have been taken in a personally attacking context. Diana’s a very smart, sweet, talented woman whom I’ve known for years, even met in person. I meant no disrespect, but I do agree with the comments below elucidating an all too common dynamic. Diana herself was not part of that dynamic, though. 🙂 Anyway, here’s her missing reply:

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question with this long comment, dear Laura. I always appreciate your observations and I don’t find you cynical at all, it was Matt’s tone (smart as he is) that blocked me from being able to discern his message. That is why I asked you for a sensible, straightforward summary, but you didn’t have to, really! It was fine to not. So… thank you.

Now I see what people are all hackled up about. Nothing new, really. Indeed, the Catholic Church may be one of the most devilish institutions on earth. No surprise that its leader buys into and wants to perpetuate, even elevate, the system that created him, right? The Vatican, Inc. is not going away any time soon, so if PF can do any relative good at all, I hope he will. Recognizing climate change? Bravo. (insert cynical *eyeroll*)

As for canonizing a killer, just sounds like more gross, pandering, hypocritical business as usual. But stop. Let’s ask ourselves this: what makes a person a saint, anyway? To me, it is simple. Brave, pure and loving thoughts and deeds. Goodness. Ahimsa. Holiness is not something one bestows upon another. It comes from within. When it’s really there, you can’t miss it.

No matter what we foolish humans do, Nature will prevail. The sky, the changing seasons, the wild things that share our planet, rocks and weeds and creatures all teach lessons and speak truths that resonate as real. If we listen… we will hear. One can only do one’s best. Ever evolving. Peace now. Blessed be. xo

18 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by manyhahama1955 on September 25, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    Kudos, to you Laura! Well said, and my view as well. Thank you.

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  2. Posted by Demitra M. N. on September 25, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Very well summarized, Laura!…
    and yet it does make one wonder about these people who pop out with such regularity these days, requiring that well-written articles such as the one in question, with all the corroborating links and attachments included, that these articles be watered-down and spoon-fed to them on account that the underlying “feeling” is suspect to them.

    They claim to have taken the time to read the whole article but one is seriously inclined to “counter-suspect” that the sound of Truth has a way of stopping such people from actually taking it all in and then contemplating the message like an independent-thinking adult.

    Instead, they react with the predictable preconditioned mind-set that tends to interrupt in mid-sentence (as they likely are wont to do in real-time conversations) to interject with some personal opinion and belief, cleverly compelling others to give more of their time and energy away to them.

    What they don’t get–yet–is that in doing so, it is your muscles of discernment that are getting the workout, while their ability to think clearly loses more and more depth in perception.

    🙂 Thanks!

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  3. Posted by Kieron on September 25, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    Pull no punches, Laura! 🙂

    Reading the Jesuit Oath is instructive to the unaware. The following is a good starting place.

    http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

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  4. Reblogged this on Reiki Dawn and commented:
    What are your thoughts. Has truth become cynicism Thank you Laura

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  7. Thank you, Demitra, and unfortunately, you’re right — no one wants to feel that negative or the overwhelm or the sense of conspiracy, because it doesn’t feel good or on track with where most people want to direct their attention. I do like the Abraham-Hicks idea of “pivoting,” using the unadulterated awareness of the negative, unwanted, as the opportunity to pivot towards that which we really do want. Without realizing what’s sneaking into the mix, we can easily swallow poisoned or plastic “food” or …real food that just happens not to sustain us in any way. Discernment is key, and it’s different for everyone. I know most people want to feel happy and fulfilled, but those ideas mean very different things to different people. I just like people to read the ingredient list before gorging themselves on the carefully presented main course. The main course need not be an “of course” for all of us! Many thanks! 🙂

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  8. Thanks, Kieron, and yes, I’m not into required reading lists, but if I were, I’d put “Not in His Image,” “Misquoting Jesus” and the Jesuit Oath on there for sure.

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  9. 🙂 Thanks, Dawn!

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  10. Posted by Anthony on September 26, 2015 at 7:32 am

    Yes, great comment! You can’t ever go too deep into the wrongness of the Catholic Church – I mean, even as I type the ‘Black Pope’ is back in the Vatican doing unspeakable acts right now to ‘counterbalance’ the ‘good’ the White Pope is doing. I heard Laura Walker of ‘Oracle Report’ talk about that on Phoenix Radio the other day and it just… UGH 😦 Anyway, your ‘truth sense’ is always right on the money!!

    Oh, and an aside: just saw a ZeroHedge article on a reservoir that went dry overnight; no explanation. What with Geoengineering, all the suspicious super-charged fires in populated areas, food failures due to drought etc…I think we are seeing the true face of WWIII: control and destroy the food, water, and homes and the machinery that provides them – as WE are the enemy of these globalists. So…anyone who’s been holding back on starting their own home garden – better get busy like Laura has!!

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  11. Thanks, Anthony, and yes, I saw that same thing about the reservoir going dry overnight. Alarming times! Best to get growing that food, as there really is a learning curve, as well as nurturing the soil or getting the right raised bed or indoor gardening setup. Even I’m way behind on my various projects, but at least they’ve begun, and I know what I’m dealing with. The more self-reliant we are, the less prone to manipulation and desperation we become. 🙂

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  12. Posted by Anthony on September 26, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    LOL!! Your intuitive sense is incredible – you KNEW that I hadn’t yet gotten my *own* garden started, didn’t you? Well, I cheated: two older couples, best friends and roommates (and friends with each other) from my college years, each have decades of experience with ‘extreme’ gardening and one set has a massive garden on their land that they’ve cultivated for almost twenty years. The plan is to ‘bug-out’ to their place together when SHTF. Already when I visit them they put me to work, so I’m learning as I play the role of “Igor!” So I’m covered…as long as we have freedom of movement!

    Thanks, and again for your staying so grounded and sane with all this stuff going on. Just coming to your site grounds me, it’s great energy!

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  13. In sync with your thoughts on this. I soooo would like to believe that this pope represents real change but, alas, I cannot. I am so done with organized religion and it’s separatist, judgmental effect (the antithesis of Christ consciousness or anti-Christ) on peoples’ lives. I am from Kentucky where Kim Davis has been in our faces non-stop for weeks. Religion is just another way of validating the hatred of “others”, along with, sexism, racism, partisan politics, etc. I love visiting your site because I always leave with something thoughtful and positive. Thanks for being such a loving voice and true spiritual warrior.

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  14. Hi Anthony, that sounds like a good plan and win-win for lots of people involved! Well done, and it really underscores the importance of community mindedness. I always tell people, you don’t need to (and can’t!) do it ALL yourself. Developing a sense of community where you are (or at least where you can get to) is important on so many different levels, whether the SHTF or just for finding ways to stay sane in these crazy times.

    I hosted our Autumn Wheel of the Year gathering in the blue house next door last night, and it was just so life-affirming to share sacred space with eleven other people, feast on just harvested or baked and lovingly prepared vegan potluck food, and share stories with each other. It always surprises me how much work I put into setting up the little ritual and planning our time together every six weeks, but it’s just so deeply rewarding. The fact that everyone gardens or is with someone who does makes celebrating the seasons feel extra special and real.

    Thanks for your comments about my site. That’s what I am for!

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  15. Hi Leslie, thanks so much for your comment! David and I were talking yesterday about what it really means to show compassion to someone and how to create a sense of community (in all different ways — online, through classes, in person friendships, etc.). Some local friends of ours are struggling with feeling judged and potentially shunned by the religious community of their birth, and we’ve found ourselves kind of the welcoming ground for good people tired of apologizing for who they are.

    I still love that Z. Budapest quote, “You get old, and you realize there are no answers, just stories.” We are all individuals with stories. Some stories resonate and others don’t, but that doesn’t mean we need to suppress the stories that don’t resonate. It doesn’t mean everyone needs to agree with us. Maybe it means shifting communities if the overt intolerance becomes too much. For every person who hates, there ARE those who love! People just need the courage and to give themselves permission truly “to live,” and then it becomes much easier to “let live.” Thanks for stopping by!

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  16. Posted by diana on September 28, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    Thought I’d check in to see how the comments ran on this “bump up” post. Interesting! I must say it’s a strange feeling to be shamed/categorized/dismissed in a public forum, especially by people who don’t know you. Learned a lot from this experience, and not just about the topic being discussed… thanks to all. Keep on thinking for yourselves! A free mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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  17. Hi Diana, so very sorry here. I thought your wonderful, articulate response on the original had posted here, so it did not occur to me that these comments would read as a personal attack or judgment. Your reply comment was so obviously sweet, genuine and informed that I really thought it spoke for itself. It does! Just not here since I mistakenly did not notice it didn’t post on this string.
    Deep apologies. As I explained in my email, a transformer just blew right by our house. No idea when I can get online besides via phone, which won’t let me do the complex things I would need to do to paste it here. Not the most techy person here, and I need my cell for sessions. Good thing I have a solar charger. Wishing you much love and respect, and again, my apologies for this experience. I should have posted your comment as an update or at least made sure it added to the discussion here, as it should have.
    ❤️

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  18. Back online and with power after a squirrel blew out our transformer with quite the gunshot flash and crack, just as I was typing in the above comment to Diana. Below is her original reply, posted the day of her earlier comments. My apologies to her and to everyone else for not realizing her comment had not posted here.

    I have known Diana for years, even met her in person. She’s a sweet, compassionate, natural health loving, talented and wise woman. Had I realized her comment wasn’t speaking for itself here, I would have responded slightly differently to some of the other comments, as I meant no personal disrespect to or mocking of her. I do, however, agree that oftentimes negativity acts as a barrier to truth, and this would be something for all would-be soothsayers to keep in mind — that we need to find a balance if we wish to explain things and that we are wise not to assume that anyone who disagrees with us is an ignorant fool or ostrich. Here’s Diana’s reply from 9/25/15:

    Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question with this long comment, dear Laura. I always appreciate your observations and I don’t find you cynical at all, it was Matt’s tone (smart as he is) that blocked me from being able to discern his message. That is why I asked for you for a sensible, straightforward summary, but you didn’t have to, really! It was fine to not. So… thank you.

    Now I see what people are all hackled up about. Nothing new, really. Indeed, the Catholic Church may be one of the most devilish institutions on earth. No surprise that its leader buys into and wants to perpetuate, even elevate, the system that created him, right? The Vatican, Inc. is not going away any time soon, so if PF can do any relative good at all, I hope he will. Recognizing climate change? Bravo. (insert cynical *eyeroll*)

    As for canonizing a killer, just sounds like more gross, pandering, hypocritical business as usual. But stop. Let’s ask ourselves this: what makes a person a saint, anyway? To me, it is simple. Brave, pure and loving thoughts and deeds. Goodness. Ahimsa. Holiness is not something one bestows upon another. It comes from within. When it’s really there, you can’t miss it.

    No matter what we foolish humans do, Nature will prevail. The sky, the changing seasons, the wild things that share our planet, rocks and weeds and creatures all teach lessons and speak truths that resonate as real. If we listen… we will hear. One can only do one’s best. Ever evolving. Peace now. Blessed be. xo

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