An Exclusive Interview With “Cowspiracy” Filmmakers Kip Andersen and Keegan Kuhn

Thanks for this great interview, and thank you to the filmmakers for highlighting a major area of hypocrisy and unaccountability in the “environmental” movement, which was long ago compromised to become yet another avenue/excuse for controlling people. If it were really about the environment, then the emphasis would be on actual solutions rather than new products like solar panels (how many resources do these take to make before they begin to offset manufacture? We mostly just hear 10 years to return on financial investment, but what about environmental cost?) or things like carbon credits (as if the environment cares if a corporation pays more to pollute the air! It’s still polluted. Not to mention many of the worst polluters/Earth poisoners and funders of major corporations are also funding the sustainability movement).

Having gotten much more into growing my own food, though, and knowing many small scale, organic farmers, it has become clear that in order to live without any kind of animal agriculture, we would need a complete redesign of the human waste stream. We hear about factory farm run-off poisoning rivers, but if you know anything about soil fertility, you do need to replace what the food takes from the soil. If you don’t, then eventually the soil stops giving back. Crops lose nutrition, become more susceptible to pests and disease or fail altogether. If we remove animal manures as a soil amendment, then we need to replace it with something. Monsanto, et al, would have us use poison fertilizers in higher and higher amounts, plus herbicides and pesticides to destroy the pests, weeds and diseases the depleted, imbalanced plants can no longer fend off. We could grow EXTENSIVE leguminous cover crops in the off seasons to fix nitrogen, but depending on climate, that could mean heating in the winter or needing more land.

Massive earthworm farms would be a sustainable way of dealing with compost to increase soil fertility, but these also require set temperatures throughout the year. Humanure — finding safe ways for the masses to utilize human waste as manure — is an untapped resource that’s currently going towards pollution and resource depletion. Without a shift to large scale worm castings, large scale humanure, and to local food growing on every available land and with vertical tower gardens, the ideal of everything and everyone being vegan as a way to save the world from itself will eventually deplete the soil so that the crops fail or at least fail to provide nourishment. I’m not arguing for factory farms in any way, shape or form — just raising the issue to vegans who might not know about soil fertility that if you want organic vegan food, then other patterns will need to change, too. Rich soil holds more moisture. Trace minerals help plants (and us) fend off diseases and parasites. Finding compassionate alternatives for organic soil fertility needs to be somewhere in this mix, too.


cowspiracy_posterAs Californians struggle through a four-year drought, lake and reservoir levels are at historic lows – and many of us are looking for ways to lower our water use. Want to save 660 gallons of water? You could quit showering for two months – if you can ignore the heartfelt pleas of friends and family begging you to resume. Alternatively, and amazingly, you could save the same amount of water by simply foregoing a single hamburger.

This is just one of the astonishing statistics to emerge from the groundbreaking new documentary film “Cowspiracy” by Kip Andersen and Keegan Kuhn. The pair set out to learn why the nation’s biggest environmental groups routinely ignore the massive environmental effects of animal agriculture. Through a series of interviews with environmental leaders that are sometimes tense, sometimes bizarre, and sometimes downright funny, a pattern of denial, fabrication and wishful thinking emerges that will…

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5 responses to this post.

  1. thanks for posting the interview and alerting people to this movie and the issues surrounding the changes needed all around. and like with anything, even if there are many layers to the changes that will be most effective, taking the steps now and starting to put them in action, is what’s important. in bigger and bigger ways the “manure” is hitting the fan and all things are coming to light 😉

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  3. Hi thank you for covering this Laura! One can’t call themselves an environmentalist and continue to eat burgers, steaks and fish, bacon, chicken and ham brought to their plate by the likes of Oscar, McDonalds, Wendy’s, your supermarket. The cost is physical and spiritual ailment. Solviva is a worthy project to study.

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    • Thanks, Emily! Solviva looks interesting (from the Amazon reviews). Have you had any experience implementing the recommendations? David and I have a dream list, including a fully off grid house with a greenhouse built into the south side of the house. Our current place is a rental that goes right to the edge of the southern side of the property. I grow things on our porch and in the large southern windows, plus a huge outside area … but we are most certainly not off grid. Grey water systems are illegal in Indiana, but I’m exploring other options. It looks like she’s designed a closed circuit system with her goats, chickens, plants, etc. Inspiring!



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